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The Weekly Drop – November 12, 2012

Sorry about the late posting again – Here are the 20 properties that dropped their price the previous week AND have dropped the largest percentage overall from their original asking price.

Some highlights for this week:

  • 50 listings dropped to a cumulative total of 20%+ this week, 20 hit 25% and 4 hit 30% this week
  •  West Vancouver appears 3 times, New Westminster, Whistler, Vancouver West and Richmond all make the list 2 times
  •  15 of 18 listings with assessment info are now listed below assessment for a total of 83% beating last weeks record setting percentage

UPDATE: Added some new information to listing #1


#20 ) Address:4785 CAPILANO RD, Canyon Heights, North Vancouver

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May 12 V949678 $1,150,000 $0 0%
June 26 V949678 $1,025,000 $-125,000 -11%
September 22 V949678 $888,000 $-262,000 -23%
November 09 V949678 removed
November 11 V979939 $865,000 $-285,000 -25%

Assessment: $969,800

Everything is here…Location, Lot size, Price!! The property is priced just for the land although a large & workable floor plan is included as a super bonus. Remodel the house with your own stamp or build new on this fantastic rarely available huge, flat & sunny lot in walking distance to Handsworth school, Grouse mountain skiing/grind, play/sport fields, restaurants, coffee shops/shopping. Enjoy your dream home on this heavenly Stanley Park like spot.


#19) Address:2611 CHARTER HILL PL, Upper Eagle Ridge, Coquitlam

March 09 V919704 $998,000 $0 0%
May 05 V919704 removed
May 26 V952410 $850,000 $-148,000 -15%
Open House: May 27
Open House: Jun 03
July 31 V952410 $825,000 $-173,000 -17%
August 14 V952410 $800,000 $-198,000 -20%
Open House: Aug 26
Open House: Sep 15
Open House: Sep 22
Open House: Sep 23
Open House: Sep 29
Open House: Sep 30
October 04 V952410 $780,000 $-218,000 -22%
October 24 V952410 removed
October 27 V978240 $770,000 $-228,000 -23%
Open House: Nov 04
November 06 V978240 $750,000 $-248,000 -25%

Assessment: $949,000

3 price drops in a little over a month and now listed over 20% BELOW assessment which is pretty rare for a liveable single family home not in foreclosure.  It’s obviously empty looking at the pictures – is this someone who bought a new place before selling, an overseas “investor” or an investment property?  I’m thinking the answer is (A) and this is a big mistake that many will make

Custom designed home currently assessed at $949,000! From the moment you walk in, you will be amazed by the spaciousness of the grand foyer with marble flooring and dramatic staircase leading to the upper floors. Situated on a hill with spectacular panoramic mountain views from your two balconies. This home is perfect for the largest of families with lots of space. Perfect location, close to amenities and schools.


#18 ) Address:# 202 715 ROYAL AV, Uptown, New Westminster

April 09 V942105 $214,900 $0 0%
June 11 V942105 removed
August 31 V968707 $178,900 $-36,000 -17%
September 29 V968707 $171,900 $-43,000 -20%
November 06 V968707 $159,000 $-55,900 -26%

Assessment: $203,100

1 sale here last year for 27% ABOVE assessment and this unit is 22% BELOW assessment!  This is a foreclosure sale and there is a special assessment but imagine being the sucker who bought a similar unit in this building a year ago for $100K more than this one…

Foreclosure. Bright, spacious, renovated 2 bedroom 910 sf unit facing south. New kitchen, bathroom, flooring, lighting, and paint throughout. Large covered balcony. Strata fee includes heat and hot water. Complex has newer roof, boiler and hot water tanks. Currently upgrading elevator and parkade. Seller to pay for assessment. Located within walking distance of skytrain, NW Quay, and new downtown shopping area. 24 HOURS NOTICE. AS IS WHERE IS. SUBJECT TO COURT APPROVAL. BUYER/BUYERS AGENT TO VERIFY ALL INFORMATION IF IMPORTANT. ALL MEASUREMENTS APPROXIMATE. Assessed for $203,100.


#17 ) Address:6430 272ND ST, County Line Glen Valley, Langley

May 25 F1213583 $3,380,000 $0 0%
July 28 F1213583 $2,950,000 $-430,000 -13%
October 31 F1213583 removed
November 12 F1227348 $2,499,000 $-881,000 -26%

Assessment: Farm Land

“LANGLEY” This is an absolutely gorgeous 77 acres for your country estate or a great property to own and farm. Features include: One newer 6 year old 1300 sq. ft. rancher with large living room, dining room, kitchen with island, 2 bathrooms2 bedrooms lots of windows and a full wraparound sundeck and one older 1600 sq. ft. 3 bedroom rancher. One to live in and one to rent out, approximately 35 acres suitable for farming, approximately 40 acres of forest, trails, etc. offering great privacy, large workshop / garage and a 6 bay storage building and other outbuildings. All this with a view of the North shore mountains and Mount Baker, only minutes from the 264th St. freeway exit. Must be seen. Bring us your offers.


#16 ) Address:410 EASTCOT RD, British Properties, West Vancouver

September 16 V971725 $1,629,000 $0 0%
September 25 V971725 $1,489,000 $-140,000 -9%
October 12 V971725 $1,380,000 $-249,000 -15%
November 07 V971725 $1,199,000 $-430,000 -26%

Assessment: $1,370,600

British Properties coming down $430K and 26% in under 2 months.  Shaughnessy and the British Properties are the top two areas in million dollar drops in homes prices with a dozen between them

A stunning estate property on a prestigious street in the sought after lower British Properties. This private serene .56 of an acre is a special piece of property, south facing with a view of the creek and forest on the property yet mins from highway and Lions Gate Bridge. Build your dream home (build up to approx 7,000 sf) or renovate existing home, Environmental proposal available to show options for new build in relation to creek.


#15 ) Address:# 207 7554 BRISKHAM ST, Mission BC, Mission

November 22 F1128164 $183,900 $0 0%
May 12 F1128164 $173,900 $-10,000 -5%
June 28 F1128164 $159,900 $-24,000 -13%
September 05 F1128164 $149,900 $-34,000 -18%
October 23 F1128164 $139,900 $-44,000 -24%
November 06 F1128164 $134,900 $-49,000 -27%
Open House: Nov 11

Assessment: $143,200

5 sales here last year averaging 4% ABOVE assessment and this unit is currently listed 6% BELOW assessment.  More estate sales and with demographics being the way they are I would expect this trend to continue for say the next 20 years…

Estate Sale. Currently the lowest priced 2 bed. 2 bath condo in Mission. Quiet side of Briskham Manor 1050 sq.ft. just painted and carpets cleaned. Vacant for immediate possession (if desired) This is the one!


#14 ) Address:# 636 4591 BLACKCOMB WY, Whistler, Whistler Pemberton

May 14 V950139 $218,000 $0 0%
July 18 V950139 $207,000 $-11,000 -5%
August 18 V950139 $208,900 $-9,100 -4%
August 21 V950139 $198,900 $-19,100 -9%
September 22 V950139 $194,900 $-23,100 -11%
November 05 V950139 removed
November 12 V980028 $159,900 $-58,100 -27%

Assessment: $189,500

10 sales here last year for an average of 6% ABOVE assessment and this unit is now listed 16% BELOW assessment.  #14 and #8 are likely owned by the same “investor” given the timing of the drops.  Price drops totalling $120K and almost 30% from their initial asking prices

Enjoy ownership in the finest 5-star hotel resort, facing courtyard on 6th floor of the main building at the Four Seasons Resort in Whistler. This superior king suite sleeps two; has full entertainment features; gas fireplace; high quality finishes and furnishings. Lovely sunsets from your own balcony. Minutes from everything Whistler and steps to Blackcomb Mtn. An easy walk or take the shuttle bus. Luxurious amenities incl. a world class spa and fitness centre, outdoor heated pool, hot tubs, 24-hour front desk/concierge, room service, ski concierge and more. Enjoy world-renowned, Four Seasons Resort on your luxury vacation and generate revenue when you are away.


#13 ) Address:# 704 32440 SIMON AV, Abbotsford West, Abbotsford

July 05 F1217261 $299,900 $0 0%
July 24 F1217261 $285,900 $-14,000 -5%
August 16 F1217261 $275,900 $-24,000 -8%
August 30 F1217261 $265,000 $-34,900 -12%
September 21 F1217261 $259,000 $-40,900 -14%
October 03 F1217261 removed
October 04 F1224540 $259,000 $-40,900 -14%
October 16 F1224540 $239,900 $-60,000 -20%
November 06 F1224540 $219,900 $-80,000 -27%

Assessment: $205,700

2 sales here last year for an average of 1% ABOVE assessment and this unit is currently listed at 7 % ABOVE assessment after 27% in drops…  Just wow, an apartment in Abbotsford listed over 40% ABOVE assessment when apartments in Abbotsford are more frequently going for 40% BELOW assessment…

Well built ‘Trethewey Towers’, Mtn Baker view! This bright 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom condo is virtually the best corner/view unit in building. Resort type highrise amenities include indoor pool, jacuzzi, exercise room, sauna, bike room & incredible workshop. Walk to everything including shopping, restaurants, library & Art Gallery. Quick possession. This is the perfect package!


#12 ) Address:2055 ACADIA RD, University, Vancouver West

June 11 V955804 $5,888,000 $0 0%
August 31 V955804 removed
October 18 V977077 $4,850,000 $-1,038,000 -18%
Open House: Oct 21
Open House: Oct 20
Open House: Oct 27
Open House: Oct 28
Open House: Nov 03
Open House: Nov 04
November 07 V977077 $4,300,000 $-1,588,000 -27%

Assessment: $4,376,900

$1.6 million in price drops for this now $4.3 million home they are marketing as a building lot…

Rarely available (112.7′ width x 165 depth) total 18,596sft large quiet flat corner lot in UBC prestigious neighborhood. It’s a beautiful place to live in or to build your dream home.


#11 ) Address:LOT 16 FLAGSHIP RD, Pender Harbour, Sunshine Coast

July 28 V902433 $1,100,000 $0 0%
October 04 V902433 $999,000 $-101,000 -9%
July 04 V902433 $988,888 $-111,112 -10%
July 21 V902433 $979,799 $-120,201 -11%
August 02 V902433 $899,000 $-201,000 -18%
October 31 V902433 removed
November 07 V979322 $799,900 $-300,100 -27%

Assessment: $1,241,000

Got to love the $988,888 price back in July.  I hear there are lots of asians looking to buy in Pender Harbour.  This lot is now almost 35% BELOW assessment

Pender Harbour Landing is a small high-end waterfront and view community. Boasting over 370 ft of frontage and 2.5 acreas, this property is the largest in the community. Mature Arbutus, Cedar, Pine and Fir trees on this private property. There is a prime building site 2/3 of the way down that would suit a gorgeous home on the Point protecting your privacy from the other homes in the community. The oceanfront is accessible from the property. Compare this property to any other waterfront and see what great value you have here as the Tax Assessment is valued at $1,241,000!!! Call us for a full information package and start building your dream home in a prestigious community of Pender Harbour Landing.


#10 ) Address:9571 NO 4 RD, Saunders, Richmond

August 04 V959259 $591,600 $0 0%
August 08 V959259 $558,000 $-33,600 -6%
September 09 V959259 $519,888 $-71,712 -12%
September 22 V959259 $498,800 $-92,800 -16%
October 04 V959259 $488,000 $-103,600 -18%
October 23 V959259 $448,000 $-143,600 -24%
November 10 V959259 $428,000 $-163,600 -28%

Assessment: $486,300

“LIVE in it, RENT it out, HOLD it for future development !!”  Wow, this is incredibly insightful!!!  So let me get this straight, if I buy this place I can choose between living there, renting it out or holding on to it for the future?  So that makes it like every other property in the universe then, right?

LIVE in it, RENT it out, HOLD it for future development !! This half duplex has huge potential to be part of a multiple family land assembly, but is priced affordably. 3 BR + 1.5 bathroom and substantially renovated. Single Garage. Large Western exposed lot, near to schools, parks, and transportation routes. Interior, carpets and paint, HW tank, and lighting updated. Roof done 2002. Please allow notice to show. All measurements approximate and to be confirmed by Buyer. See MLS#V956594


#9) Address:212 GIFFORD ST, Queensborough, New Westminster

January 20 V926966 $1,300,000 $0 0%
April 05 V926966 $1,150,000 $-150,000 -12%
August 15 V926966 removed
August 26 V968185 $968,000 $-332,000 -26%
November 10 V968185 $939,000 $-361,000 -28%

Assessment: $746,000

$1.3 million in Queensborough?  I’ll give you $150K for land value and $125/sqft for a 4 year old home that is reasonably well done so how about $575K?  Really, how could this be more than that?  $1.3 million?!?

Another fine new luxury home! Built in 2008 over 6000 SF lot boasts with 3400 SF house, total 6 bedrooms, 5 bathrooms. Still within 2-5-10 new home warranty. You can count on granite counter top, hardwood floors, jet tubs, intimate showering stall, oriental kitchen, wired surround audio system and a 2 bedroom legal suite. Great location! Guaranteed you will love this home.


#8 ) Address:# 364 4591 BLACKCOMB WY, Whistler, Whistler Pemberton

May 14 V950021 $225,000 $0 0%
July 18 V950021 $217,000 $-8,000 -4%
August 18 V950021 $208,900 $-16,100 -7%
September 22 V950021 $203,900 $-21,100 -9%
November 05 V950021 removed
November 11 V979989 $161,900 $-63,100 -28%

Assessment: $194,500

10 sales here last year for an average of 6% ABOVE assessment and this unit is now listed 16% BELOW assessment.  #14 and #8 are likely owned by the same “investor” given the timing of the drops.  Price drops totalling $120K and almost 30% from their initial asking prices

Enjoy ownership in the finest 5-Star Four Seasons Resort in Whistler. Faces west on the 3rd floor of West building. Deluxe suite with queen sofa bed, sleeps 4; full entertainment features; in-suite gas fireplace; quality finishes & furnishings. Lovely sunsets from your own balcony. Minutes from everything Whistler and Blackcomb Mountain; World Class Spa, outdoor heated pool and hot tubs, 24-hour front desk/concierge, room service, Ski Concierge. Easy walk to take the shuttle bus. A world-renown resort for luxury vacations to generate revenue when you’re away.


#7 ) Address:# 306 3128 FLINT ST, Glenwood, Port Coquitlam

March 09 V929343 $259,900 $0 0%
May 23 V929343 $249,900 $-10,000 -4%
Open House: May 26
June 01 V929343 removed
June 04 V954239 $249,900 $-10,000 -4%
September 18 V954239 removed
September 20 V972318 $214,900 $-45,000 -17%
September 29 V972318 $204,900 $-55,000 -21%
November 06 V972318 $185,900 $-74,000 -28%

Assessment: $232,100

1 sale here last year for 6% ABOVE assessment and this unit is currently listed at 20% BELOW assessment.  Another Court Approval sale.  Between March and September 18 it dropped $10K and since then it has dropped another $64K.

Foreclosure. Great 1,027 sq ft 2 bdrm, 2 bath unit with private rooftop deck. Features quality laminate flooring, tile, contemporary colors and gas fireplace. Located within walking distance of shopping, transit schools and parks. 24 hours notice for viewing. AS IS WHERE IS. SUBJECT TO COURT APPROVAL, BUYER/BUYERS AGENT TO VERIFY ALL INFORMATION IF IMPORTANT. ALL MEASUREMENTS APPROXIMATE. Assessed for $232,100.


#6 ) Address:# 105 9632 120A ST, Cedar Hills, North Surrey

March 09 F1203816 $189,900 $0 0%
May 10 F1203816 removed
May 11 F1212212 $179,900 $-10,000 -5%
June 06 F1212212 $169,900 $-20,000 -11%
June 27 F1212212 $159,900 $-30,000 -16%
August 09 F1212212 $149,900 $-40,000 -21%
August 23 F1212212 removed
October 12 F1225175 $144,900 $-45,000 -24%
October 26 F1225175 $139,900 $-50,000 -26%
November 10 F1225175 $134,900 $-55,000 -29%

Assessment: $203,900

4 sales here last year averaging 10% ABOVE assessment and this unit is currently 34% BELOW assessment!  Again, imagine being one of the people who bought here last year.  Can’t be a good feeling.

2nd Largest unit in the complex, 2 bedroom ground floor unit which is 1354 sqft with a large patio off the living room. Great location close to Scott Rd and 96th. No rental restrictions and pet friendly building. Close to shopping, transportation and parks.


#5 ) Address:# 212 14200 RIVERPORT WY, East Richmond, Richmond

March 09 V934864 $498,500 $0 0%
April 12 V934864 removed
April 14 V943239 $459,900 $-38,600 -8%
April 28 V943239 $449,900 $-48,600 -10%
May 11 V943239 $435,000 $-63,500 -13%
June 09 V943239 $424,500 $-74,000 -15%
June 19 V943239 $415,000 $-83,500 -17%
July 10 V943239 $399,900 $-98,600 -20%
July 28 V943239 $389,900 $-108,600 -22%
September 05 V943239 $372,500 $-126,000 -25%
October 11 V943239 $362,900 $-135,600 -27%
November 09 V943239 $352,500 $-146,000 -29%

Assessment: $432,000

7 sales here last year averaging 6% BELOW assessment and this unit is currently listed at 18% BELOW assessment.  LOVE ALL CAPS

SPECTACULAR RIVER VIEWS FROM YOUR SOUTH FACING BALCONY. THIS 2 BED/ 2 BATH WATERFRONT CONDO IS LARGE, OVER 1100 SQ. FT. WITH A BONUS DEN, LOCKER, IN SUITE LAUNDRY AND STORAGE ROOM.


#4 ) Address:1515 OTTAWA AV, Ambleside, West Vancouver

March 14 V936810 $4,988,000 $0 0%
Open House: May 20
Open House: May 27
Open House: Jun 03
June 01 V936810 removed
June 30 V959481 $4,380,000 $-608,000 -12%
Open House: Jul 22
Open House: Sep 16
September 18 V959481 $3,900,000 $-1,088,000 -22%
November 06 V959481 $3,488,000 $-1,500,000 -30%

Assessment: Building Unfinished at time of assessment

This new home is very nice but $5 million initial asking price?  It has dropped $1.5 million and I bet there is still a lot of profit in there for the builder if they get this price.  Do people realize what $5 million gets you around the world?

Enjoy spectacular ocean & partial city view from this attractive NEW mansion w/its grand facade featuring columns, covered porches, extensive decks & pretty Juliet balconies. Well-sited on large level fully hedged 14,702 SF lot in convenient Ambleside in close proximity to schools, transportation, beaches & shops, this 7 BDM, 8 BTH residence is luxuriously finished w/marble & engineered H/W floors, granite counters, crystal chandeliers, high-end fittings, radiant floor heating, air-conditioning & elevator to service all 3 levels. The main features large deep foyer w/X-hall grand living & dining rooms, family room off kitchen w/antique white cabinets & Miele appliances including Miele coffee machine, wok kitchen, guest bedroom & office which opens through french doors to the private backyard. Up are 4 ensuite bedrooms including the huge master. The lower level has a games room, home theatre w/wet bar & well-finished 3 bedroom legal suite. The private grounds are beautifully L/S w/level lush lawn. Priced to sell


#3 ) Address:6135 DUFFERIN AV, Forglen, Burnaby

June 27 V958839 $1,165,000 $0 0%
July 05 V958839 $1,065,000 $-100,000 -9%
July 11 V958839 $995,000 $-170,000 -15%
September 07 V958839 removed
September 13 V970890 $895,000 $-270,000 -23%
Open House: Sep 16
Open House: Sep 30
Open House: Oct 13
October 20 V970890 $847,500 $-317,500 -27%
November 05 V970890 removed
November 09 V979559 $795,000 $-370,000 -32%

Assessment: $863,500

The original owners probably paid around $5K for this home 51 years ago so come with your lowball offers.  Maybe if they didn’t start with 30% above assessment they would have sold it by now. 

UPDATE: Sold for $740,000, thanks “Disowned Renter”

Prime location. Close to Metrotown, skytrain, schools & nature trails. The original owners have cared for this home for 51 years. 3 bedrooms on the main floor, eating area in the kitchen, separate dining room, living room has hardwood floor, fireplace & overlooks the green space of Kisby Park. Partly finished basement with recroom & large area for potential finishings. A wonderful opportunity to renovated or add on to this solid home. This 50×150 lot with lane is great for building up to 4500 Sf of living space.


#2 ) Address:4255 HIGHBURY ST, Dunbar, Vancouver West

March 09 V931539 $3,888,888 $0 0%
March 23 V931539 removed
March 26 V939234 $3,388,000 $-500,888 -13%
May 16 V939234 $2,988,000 $-900,888 -23%
September 07 V939234 removed
September 09 V970357 $2,888,000 $-1,000,888 -26%
Open House: Sep 15
Open House: Nov 04
November 06 V970357 removed
November 09 V979536 $2,580,000 $-1,308,888 -34%

Assessment: $2,437,000

$1.3 million in price drops in Dunbar and still above assessment.  Also interesting to note that they started with 5 8’s in the price, dropped to 2 then back up to 3 and now settled for just a single 8.  Now, correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t the “Denman neighborhood” downtown?  

Sold for $2.338M in December, 2012

Lovely West side family home on a quiet street in sought after Denman neighborhood. Close to Crofton & St George’s private schools, Point Grey high school, & UBC. Walking distance to elementary school, shopping, transit, parks & easy access to public & private golf courses, recreation, equestrian facilities, Pacific Spirit Park. Home is situated on a large corner lot with lane access which zoning allows for a coach house. Great floor plan with functional & spacious living-dining-eating-family room, 5 good sized bedrooms, 4 washrooms including massive ensuite washroom, plus bonus rooftop deck. Call now for your private showing.


#1 ) Address:5347 KEW CLIFF RD, Caulfeild, West Vancouver

March 09 V906191 $12,980,000 $0 0%
April 11 V906191 $9,980,000 $-3,000,000 -23%
June 14 V906191 removed
June 23 V958265 $8,998,000 $-3,982,000 -31%
November 10 V958265 $7,898,000 $-5,082,000 -39%

Assessment: $8,286,000

We’ve seen this one on various “If I lost a million dollars” and “weekly drop” lists over the last 7 months but finally it has 1) dropped over $5 million  2) made first spot on the list and 3) listed below assessment!    Apparently this one actually started much higher in price back before March of this year.  

Found this cached link from 2008:

http://tinyurl.com/b556t6f

Turns out this home was purchased in 2008 for $8.1 million!  So, if it sells for asking then they are looking at a loss of $202K + $392K in transfer fees on the purchase and commission on the sale for an overall loss of $594K in a little over 4 years not to mention that this home has seemingly been empty for about 2 years now.

A magnificent luxury Waterfront home situated on one of West Vancouver’s most sought after streets. Offering over 5,300 sq. ft. of outstanding luxury & detail throughout on all 3 levels. Large entertainment size rooms including a feature curved staircase with wrought iron railings, all French doors leading onto spacious walk-out patios with wonderful outdoor swimming pool & jacuzzi. This beautifully appointed luxury home features a World Class International kitchen, separate den or office, theatre room, wine cellar & a simply gorgeous Master suite. Fully gated & landscaped with breathtaking views!

 

11 responses to “The Weekly Drop – November 12, 2012

  1. happy cynic November 14, 2012 at 12:43 am

    #2- No, in fact you are correct. Dunbar is not in the “sought after Denman neighborhood”.
    As a seller, I’d be happy forking over $60,000 plus in commission to this professional real estate agent for a job well done. This is also more than the average British Columbian earns working for an entire year.

  2. RFM November 14, 2012 at 1:42 am

    A couple notes: I notice in the photos that the master bathroom in # 4 has no mirrors; I guess that’s because if you pay this much for this house you can’t face yourself the morning after……………..
    And regarding #1, it looks like the furniture-staging company doesn’t own any rugs to soften all those harsh hardwood floors………………
    Just saying!

  3. M- November 14, 2012 at 11:31 am

    I always enjoy the weekly drop– thanks!

    For #18, it must be painful to be a recent buyer– huge price drops, special assessment (and in this case, the seller is paying the assessment, and it’s still selling for cheap!)

    For #6, the price is about $100/sq.ft!

    • Mike November 14, 2012 at 2:40 pm

      #6 As per the listing they actually include the sqft of the patio to get to the total Sqft 🙂
      Who knows how big that is? Anyways, we are getting there.

  4. DJB November 14, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    I wish you would skip the strata hotel units as these have been loser in the R/E market for years (pre 2008 meltdown) and don’t truly reflect the residential market. Anything that is 1/4 or 1/2 share or hotel strata is just a glorified time share.

  5. S November 14, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Thanks! #1 sure looks empty…

  6. Funky monkey November 14, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    The #1 house in west van I am shure I went to a garage sale there at least two years ago and I am sure it was for sale back then.

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