Here are the 10 detached properties in Metro Vancouver (Vancouver West, Vancouver East, Burnaby, Richmond, North Vancouver and West Vancouver) that changed their price or were relisted under a new MLS number the previous week AND have dropped the largest percentage overall from their original asking price.
5 properties are from WestVancouver, 4 from Vancouver West and 1 from North Vancouver
#10 ) Address:8417 CITRUS WD, Howe Sound, West Vancouver
November 17, 2010 |
V858494 |
$4,200,000 |
$0 |
0% |
July 01, 2011 |
V858494 |
removed after 226 days |
January 16, 2013 |
V985289 |
$2,998,000 |
$-1,202,000 |
-29% |
Current Days on Market: 7 (0.02 years)
Current ‘Official’ Days on Market: 7
2012 Assessment: $1,690,000
This home seems so horribly overpriced that I don’t even know what to say. Pretty sure we’ll be seeing this one much higher in the list some time soon
Stunning contemp res at the end of a C-D-S on a spectacular ocean view ppty! Dramatic open flrpln on 3 levels, floor-to-ceiling windows, lg sunfilled terrace w/hot tub. Custom gourmet island kit, top appl, brkfst bar, adj E/A, FR w/media centre, white designer walls for art lovers, soaring ceilings, fabulous master w/lg W/I closet, gorgeous spa-like ensuite w/atrium-style shower & jetted soaker tub, LR w/signature 2-sided F/P, lg dining area & elegant foyer w/overhead skylight. 4 guest bedrooms, fabulous rec rm, lg priv office & gated entry. Exquisitely landscaped w/sparkling waterfalls & shimmering ponds. Tranquil priv setting. Mins to local amenities, Whytecliff Pk, Thunderbird Marina & Caulfeild Village. Simply magnificent!
#9 ) Address:56 W KING EDWARD AV, Cambie, Vancouver West
December 12, 2011 |
V922168 |
$2,790,000 |
$0 |
0% |
February 17, 2012 |
V922168 |
$2,698,000 |
$-92,000 |
-3% |
April 09, 2012 |
V922168 |
removed after 119 days |
April 16, 2012 |
V943496 |
$2,599,000 |
$-191,000 |
-7% |
June 06, 2012 |
V943496 |
$2,399,000 |
$-391,000 |
-14% |
July 17, 2012 |
V943496 |
removed after 92 days |
July 20, 2012 |
V962919 |
$2,298,000 |
$-492,000 |
-18% |
November 01, 2012 |
V962919 |
removed after 104 days |
January 16, 2013 |
V985199 |
$1,980,000 |
$-810,000 |
-29% |
Current Days on Market: 408 (1.12 years)
Current ‘Official’ Days on Market: 7
2012 Assessment: $2,243,000
This BRAND NEW HOME has been listed since it was first built and over a year, $800K and 29% later it still hasn’t sold. Now listed 10% BELOW assessment
Luxurious top quality BRAND NEW HOME located in the desirable Main/Cambie corridor. Steps away from the award winning Hillcrest community centre, Queen Elizabeth Park & the city’s best restaurants. Stunning 3 level home on a large 50×150 lot over 4636 SF with a separate legal 2 bedroom suite excellent for rental income & 4-car garage. Design: high ceilings, h/w floors, radiant heat, all 4 spacious bedrooms above with walk in closet & ensuites, beautiful mountain views, additional den/office on the main with formal dining & living room & large entertainment-style kitchen open to family rm. Sneak away to your dream home theatre below or additional 1 bedrooms inlaw/nanny suite. 2-5-10 warranty.Open House Sat 2-4pm,Sun 3-5pm! HST INCLUDED!!!
#8 ) Address:5968 MARINE DR, Eagleridge, West Vancouver
October 26, 2011 |
V917255 |
$9,800,000 |
$0 |
0% |
November 15, 2011 |
V917255 |
$8,900,000 |
$-900,000 |
-9% |
February 01, 2012 |
V917255 |
$8,550,000 |
$-1,250,000 |
-13% |
March 31, 2012 |
V917255 |
removed after 157 days |
April 05, 2012 |
V941399 |
$7,900,000 |
$-1,900,000 |
-19% |
July 09, 2012 |
V941399 |
removed after 95 days |
July 13, 2012 |
V961757 |
$7,200,000 |
$-2,600,000 |
-27% |
August 22, 2012 |
V961757 |
$6,900,000 |
$-2,900,000 |
-30% |
January 10, 2013 |
V961757 |
removed after 181 days |
January 17, 2013 |
V985358 |
$6,900,000 |
$-2,900,000 |
-30% |
Current Days on Market: 455 (1.25 years)
Current ‘Official’ Days on Market: 6
2012 Assessment: $4,686,000
$3 million off the initial price and yet still over $2 million above assessment
The Essence of West Coast Waterfront. Enjoy pristine ocean views and stunning sunsets from this Prestigious waterfront home! Designed to capture the essence of West Coast living, this home is a work of art. Features include : 12-15 high ceilings on all 3 levels , high quality noble materials, gated entry, amazing kitchen with double subzero fridges, elevators, outdoor fireplace, unique wine cellar, hot tub under the stars! Easy walking access to 114 ft of your own shoreline with several secluded patios and idyllic bays to enjoy the marine life.
#7 ) Address:6269 ST GEORGES CR, Gleneagles, West Vancouver
June 19, 2011 |
V895353 |
$9,988,000 |
$0 |
0% |
July 23, 2011 |
V895353 |
$8,988,000 |
$-1,000,000 |
-10% |
January 13, 2012 |
V895353 |
removed after 208 days |
January 19, 2012 |
V926227 |
$8,988,000 |
$-1,000,000 |
-10% |
March 28, 2012 |
V926227 |
$7,988,000 |
$-2,000,000 |
-20% |
June 25, 2012 |
V926227 |
removed after 158 days |
July 05, 2012 |
V959998 |
$7,988,000 |
$-2,000,000 |
-20% |
January 17, 2013 |
V959998 |
removed after 196 days |
January 19, 2013 |
V986024 |
$6,998,000 |
$-2,990,000 |
-30% |
Current Days on Market: 584 (1.60 years)
Current ‘Official’ Days on Market: 4
2012 Assessment: $5,005,000
Another home with a $3 million price drop and still over $2 million above assessment
Extensively renovated throughout this magnificent residence with approx. 15,000 sq.ft. of spectacular indoor & outdoor lvg & incredible panoramic views of the Ocean, Mtns & Howe Sound, features concrete construction, 180 ft frontage & a spectacular view from all major rooms.Features include flr-to-ceiling windows,stunning grand foyer w/20 ft ceilings, 7 ft chandelier, elegant DR,formal grand LR,gourmet Kitch,fantastic Fam Rm,huge Master Bdrm with large dressing Rm & amazing 9ft Kohler negtive edge jetted tub,raised media Rm w/integrated lighting & sound system,incredible office/den,2 wine rooms,pool-side guest suite,huge indoor/outdoor pool area,wet & dry sauna,and much more.An amazing home for entertaining.
#6 ) Address:4485 DINMONT AV, Cambie, Vancouver West
June 12, 2011 |
V894081 |
$2,850,000 |
$0 |
0% |
October 12, 2011 |
V894081 |
$2,788,000 |
$-62,000 |
-2% |
November 21, 2011 |
V894081 |
removed after 162 days |
January 05, 2012 |
V923390 |
$2,788,000 |
$-62,000 |
-2% |
April 03, 2012 |
V923390 |
$2,670,000 |
$-180,000 |
-6% |
April 27, 2012 |
V923390 |
removed after 113 days |
April 30, 2012 |
V946634 |
$2,665,000 |
$-185,000 |
-6% |
June 18, 2012 |
V946634 |
removed after 49 days |
June 22, 2012 |
V957887 |
$2,298,000 |
$-552,000 |
-19% |
October 01, 2012 |
V957887 |
removed after 101 days |
October 07, 2012 |
V975588 |
$2,298,000 |
$-552,000 |
-19% |
January 01, 2013 |
V975588 |
removed after 86 days |
January 17, 2013 |
V985376 |
$1,988,000 |
$-862,000 |
-30% |
Current Days on Market: 591 (1.62 years)
Current ‘Official’ Days on Market: 6
2012 Assessment: $2,129,700
2011 Assessment: $2,291,800
JUST ABOUT ALL CAPS. ASSESSMENT DOWN 7% IN ONE YEAR
UNBELIEVABLE PRICE IN WEST SIDE. NOTE LOT SIZE 11,630SF. LARGE CORNER LOT, VIEW OF MOUNTAINS. Located in DESIRABLE CAMBIE CORRIDOR. Beautiful street appeal. Steps away from FAMOUS QUEEN ELIZABETH PARK, HILLCREST PARK & NEW COMMUNITY CENTRE.CLOSE TO WELL KNOWN SCHOOL CATCHMENT; ERIC HAMBER SECONDARY, YORK HOUSE & ST GEORGES PRIVATE SCHOOLS, UBC, DOWNTOWN, SHOPPING, TRANSIT. Well kept solid home, over 2720sf offering spacious 3 bedrooms, 2 bths, entertaining sized living rm & lrg open sized kit, h/w flr thru-out. PARK-LIKE GARDEN, self-contained 1 bdrm suite in bsmnt as mortgage helper. EXCELLENT HOLDING PROPERTY FOR INVESTOR OR BUILDER. DON’T MISS. MUST SEE. PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE SUN 20/JAN/2012@2-4pm
#5 ) Address:2586 HOSKINS RD, Westlynn Terrace, North Vancouver
July 26, 2007 |
V660646 |
$709,000 |
$0 |
0% |
July 31, 2007 |
V660646 |
removed after 5 days |
February 25, 2012 |
V933613 |
$1,299,000 |
$0 |
0% |
March 07, 2012 |
V933613 |
$1,099,000 |
$-200,000 |
-15% |
March 31, 2012 |
V933613 |
$988,000 |
$-311,000 |
-24% |
May 03, 2012 |
V933613 |
removed after 68 days |
May 07, 2012 |
V948338 |
$959,000 |
$-340,000 |
-26% |
July 27, 2012 |
V948338 |
removed after 81 days |
January 20, 2013 |
V986299 |
$889,000 |
$-410,000 |
-32% |
Current Days on Market: 333 (0.91 years)
Current ‘Official’ Days on Market: 3
2012 Assessment: $903,000
Abundance of space in Westlynn Terrace! Nicely renovated throughout, this 5 bdrm/den home has transformed into a natural oasis, w/3 large bedrooms on the main. Gorgeous flooring from tile to hardwood throughout, solid upgrades applied in all bathrooms, downstairs has enormous space w/2 bedrooms/den, 2nd kitchen for those who desire a secondary suite. Roomy workshop in backyard, upstairs patio for entertaining & bonus playroom & wetbar off main living area. All this on a 9000 plus SF lot backing onto greenbelt. Close to transportation, schools & Lynn Canyon park.
#4 ) Address:385 RABBIT LN, British Properties, West Vancouver
March 12, 2012 |
V936611 |
$3,800,000 |
$0 |
0% |
March 21, 2012 |
V936611 |
$3,395,000 |
$-405,000 |
-11% |
May 02, 2012 |
V936611 |
$3,100,000 |
$-700,000 |
-18% |
August 06, 2012 |
V936611 |
removed after 147 days |
August 15, 2012 |
V966332 |
$3,100,000 |
$-700,000 |
-18% |
August 16, 2012 |
V966332 |
removed after 1 days |
August 24, 2012 |
V967881 |
$2,988,000 |
$-812,000 |
-21% |
October 12, 2012 |
V967881 |
$2,788,000 |
$-1,012,000 |
-27% |
January 19, 2013 |
V967881 |
$2,588,000 |
$-1,212,000 |
-32% |
Current Days on Market: 317 (0.87 years)
Current ‘Official’ Days on Market: 150
2012 Assessment: $2,047,000
2011 Assessment: $1,990,000
“ideallly”, “thequality”… Just a stones throw away from #3 on the list
English country Estate ideallly located in the lower British Properties on a 1/2 acre fully level property – beautiful garden and grounds with complete privacy. This 5,200 sq. ft. Tudor designed home has been completely updated with all thequality you’d expect in a home of this caliber. Features: Grand Entry, Hardwood floors throughout, Country kitchen w/viking appliances. Huge main floor rec room/billiards room. All bedrooms with ensuite bathrooms. Resort like Master ensuite. Separate guest/nannies accommodation. Garage with a built-in sub-zero fridge…Truly a home of distinction within close proximity to Collingwood School.
#3 ) Address:285 RABBIT LN, British Properties, West Vancouver
November 07, 2009 |
V796679 |
$1,480,000 |
$0 |
0% |
April 12, 2010 |
V796679 |
removed after 156 days |
February 09, 2011 |
V867912 |
$2,280,000 |
$0 |
0% |
May 04, 2011 |
V867912 |
removed after 84 days |
May 06, 2011 |
V886428 |
$1,980,000 |
$-300,000 |
-13% |
June 04, 2011 |
V886428 |
$1,680,000 |
$-600,000 |
-26% |
July 11, 2011 |
V886428 |
removed after 66 days |
September 14, 2011 |
V909797 |
$2,388,800 |
$0 |
0% |
September 20, 2011 |
V909797 |
removed after 6 days |
September 25, 2011 |
V912327 |
$1,880,000 |
$-508,800 |
-21% |
January 01, 2012 |
V912327 |
removed after 98 days |
January 05, 2012 |
V923307 |
$1,785,000 |
$-603,800 |
-25% |
April 04, 2012 |
V923307 |
$1,680,000 |
$-708,800 |
-30% |
May 16, 2012 |
V923307 |
removed after 132 days |
May 26, 2012 |
V952624 |
$1,898,000 |
$-490,800 |
-21% |
May 30, 2012 |
V952624 |
$1,638,000 |
$-750,800 |
-31% |
July 05, 2012 |
V952624 |
$1,599,000 |
$-789,800 |
-33% |
September 06, 2012 |
V952624 |
$1,688,000 |
$-700,800 |
-29% |
September 17, 2012 |
V952624 |
removed after 114 days |
January 19, 2013 |
V985957 |
$1,588,000 |
$-800,800 |
-34% |
Current Days on Market: 714 (1.96 years)
Current ‘Official’ Days on Market: 4
2012 Assessment: $1,539,400
They’ve been playing lots of games with the listing price – just random garbage. They’re finally getting the picture that the place will sell for less than it did in 2009
PRESTIGIOUS BRITISH PROPERTIES – 52,751 SF LOT with 230 SF FRONTAGE. This 2,800 SF house featuring 5 bdrm, 3 baths. This current house is in good condition. Great opportunity to invest, hold now or build your dream house. This lot allows you to build your dream home of 28,000 SF. Tenanted for $2200 per month. 5 minutes drive to Park Royal Shopping Center. Close to Capilano River Regional Park & Golf course.
#2 ) Address:3390 THE CRESCENT, Shaughnessy, Vancouver West
January 30, 2010 |
V806985 |
$17,900,000 |
$0 |
0% |
August 01, 2010 |
V806985 |
removed after 183 days |
October 28, 2011 |
V917626 |
$31,900,000 |
$0 |
0% |
September 25, 2012 |
V917626 |
removed after 333 days |
September 27, 2012 |
V973696 |
$22,800,000 |
$-9,100,000 |
-29% |
January 18, 2013 |
V973696 |
$19,900,000 |
$-12,000,000 |
-38% |
Current Days on Market: 453 (1.24 years)
Current ‘Official’ Days on Market: 118
2012 Assessment: $16,076,000
2011 Assessment: $15,788,000
$12 million in price drops and still horribly overpriced. This is Vancouver Real Estate epitomized in a single listing. If memory serves me correctly, a commentor posted that this place sold for around $6 million about 8 years ago
Location! In the heart of the 1st Shaughnessy! Rare find 10,516 sf Mansion sets on over One acre in the city’s most exclusive enclave of ‘The Crescent’. The finest and the most prestigious area. Beautiful huge front yard like a private park. Totally rewired and new pipes. The main floor has a grand entry w/a sweeping staircase to second floor. Wok Kitchen, massive living room, & dining room all overlook the garden & pool area. The paneled den, family room & breakfast room open to the large deck which access the garden & pool. The master suite has three dressing rooms, a fireplace. A large recreation room in basement. 5 car garages, a greenhouse & a outdoor pool w/large cab and more.
#1 ) Address:1150 HARO ST, West End, Vancouver West
September 11, 2008 |
V732244 |
$3,380,000 |
$0 |
0% |
December 16, 2008 |
V732244 |
removed after 96 days |
September 16, 2009 |
V787170 |
$3,998,000 |
$0 |
0% |
October 23, 2009 |
V787170 |
removed after 37 days |
March 10, 2010 |
V803207 |
$3,588,888 |
$-409,112 |
-10% |
May 10, 2010 |
V803207 |
removed after 61 days |
September 26, 2012 |
V973445 |
$2,300,000 |
$-1,698,000 |
-42% |
November 14, 2012 |
V973445 |
$2,250,000 |
$-1,748,000 |
-44% |
January 19, 2013 |
V973445 |
$1,999,999 |
$-1,998,001 |
-50% |
Current Days on Market: 119 (0.33 years)
Current ‘Official’ Days on Market: 119
2012 Assessment: $1,853,000
2011 Assessment: $1,657,000
Can’t understand the $4 million asking price back in 2009 but it seems like it was valid. It’s actually kind of a cool place although still over priced even with a 50% discount although it does have its “original spendour”
Be part of Vancouver’s history with this 1892 Circa “Victorian” designed residence which was meticulously restored to original spendour and infused with all the modern conveniences demanded today. It offers prominent entertainment areas. Equisite wood panel private office, grand entrance foyer with stunning banister, accentuated ceilings with detailed crown & baseboard moulding, gourmet chefs kitchen, incredible custom millwork and top quality craftsmanship throughout. 3 spacious and elegant bedrooms above. Main living area opening to private southern courtyard patio with lush vegetation providing complete tranquility. This home offers ample storage, 2 car garage with lane access. Truly magnificent!
im curious when #2 will sell for?
It will never sell
Oh, how the mighty do fall! Agree totally that this property epitomizes Vancouver RE. A year ago the pumpers said price is not a factor with the “uber-rich RE investor class”. I’m starting to think maybe their hypothesis was wrong. Prestige aside, most rich people understand that you don’t get richer by investing in depreciating (read crashing) assets, especially houses.
Yes, 3390 The Crescent was purchased by the current owners for $6 million.
Can’t say I’m too knowledgeable about the ~$20,000,000 housing market, but took a quick look on Zillow and this is the first $20M house I saw in LA….
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1-Electra-Ct-Los-Angeles-CA-90046/20795638_zpid/
“This is by far, the biggest and best view lot in the city. Your own island off the Sunset Strip. The number 1 view lot in the city over 3 acres, totally private property with no neighbors next to you or below you. Its own private street, gated with parking that can accommodate 25 within the gate,…”
Of course, it’s not located on the best place on earth.
Transplant that home and lot to the finest neighbourhoods in southern california and it would list and sit unsold for $3 million.
This home has same square footage, is far nicer inside, double the lot size and is a very short drive to Laguna Beach and it has been sitting for under $4 million since May
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/31851-Peppertree-Bnd-San-Juan-Capistrano-CA-92675/25561497_zpid/
Are you able to calculate the month supply for each area? that would be telling…
Yes, I will be doing some sort of inventory graph some time soon
Havent seen your “desperation index” in quite a while……enjoying the regular 3 posts a week now though!
#3) Why in the world would someone buy this place? What a total disconnect versus buying and renting in Vancouver. $2,200/month for a 1.5 million dollar home? Based on that, this home would have a cap rate of 0.9% (assuming $5K taxes and $2K maintenance). Your mortgage interest cost alone would be about $50K/year!! The rent doesn’t even cover the interest cost!!!
Like comedian Russell Peters says” SOMEONE GOING TO GET HURT REAL BAD”
In their defence, you can’t really look at cap rates when dealing with a home that is being sold for lot value. It’s more like “here’s a building lot and as a bonus someone will give you $2200/month while you work out the new home plans”
#9 (56 W King Edward) presents almost the same exterior view as #10 (8443 13 Ave, East Burnaby) in your Jan 15th post. Same developer/builder? If so, I think that plan should be flushed. Maybe home buyers are finally started to wipe the mist from their eyes and asking themselves, “What am I actually getting for my money?”
Have been following comments for a while and agree values in vaincouver are impossible to justify, but there is one issue when comparing values to the US. Property taxes are much higher here. My home is assessed in the 600k range and I pay approx $12k in taxes. My total cost to carry is about $4k/m. If my taxes were say $3k/yr and I assumed I was indifferent between paying taxes or paying interest that would support another 250k in debt. (using ball park figures). Then my 600k house could be worth 850k assuming people are just buying a payment. This isn’t a perfect calc as there are some tax considerations but those generally phase out when you talk about houses north of $1m. I know there are a few assumptions that people will not agree with but I hope it does give some insight as to why there are some structural differences between markets.
I don’t know if this is universally true – I’ve looked at many similarity priced homes to the one I own in the USA and their property taxes were many times higher. Also, your property tax seems extremely high. I pay roughly 0.4% of assessment in property taxes for my home and you are paying 2%! So about 5x the rate
Most of the homes I have looked at have been in California where it seems prop tax is roughly 1% of assessed value so it could very well be a lower % in other states
I think states that don’t have income tax tend to have very high property tax. The government has to get the money from somewhere.
California has some sillly rules with property taxes. They basically don’t go up until the property is sold. If you paid $100k, your taxes are based on that. If you sell it for $2mil, the next owner will pay taxes based on $2mil.
But if you ask Phil Mikkelson, the reason no one who makes money wants to live in California anymore it’s because the new tax rates make total federal/state taxes around 62-63% for high income earners. Makes 43.7% look pretty good…
That may have been true in the past but it is no longer the case – it’s based on current assessed value and I just double checked and the rate is 1.25%.
Also, regarding the income taxes, for someone making $1 million in 2013, they will pay $327K in federal taxes and $91K in California state taxes so 42% overall and 45% marginal in the top bracket. Looked into this further, Obama was trying to raise taxes to where California’s top bracket would be 52% marginal but again, most of that increase is federal and applies to all states.
My bad. It’s not based on the original price. From wikipedia on Prop 13.
“By Proposition 13, the annual real estate tax on a parcel of property is limited to 1% of its assessed value. This “assessed value,” may be increased only by a maximum of 2% per year, until and unless the property has a change of ownership.[6] At the time of the change in ownership the low assessed value may be reassessed to complete current market value which will produce a new base year value for the property, but future assessments are likewise restricted to the 2% annual maximum increase of the new base year value.
If the property’s market value increases rapidly (values of many detached dwellings in California appreciated at annual rates averaging more than 10% in the decade ending with 2005) [7] or if inflation exceeds 2%,[8][9] the differential between the owner’s taxes and the taxes a new owner would have to pay can become quite large.”
State taxes on those making over $1mil went to 13.3%. Federal in that bracket are going to 39.6. So about 53% before Social Security, unemployment and disability.
And then he gets to pay state sales tax on what ever he spends after-tax.
Of course it’s easy to mock someone making $50mil a year for griping….but…..if all he has to do is move to Texas or Florida and get to keep $10mil/year….I think it’s easier to mock the public in California. Do you want 5% of something or 100% of nothing? The public in California are choosing 100% of nothing, hence a lot of homes for those making over $1mil/year are landing on the market.
#1 has been listed as a furnished rental on Craigslist for quite awhile (I first noticed it about two months ago): http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/apa/3504787447.html
(if the link doesn’t work anymore, it’s probably because they’ve deleted and reposted to keep the ad fresh)
They are asking nearly $10,000 / month,”plus a $395 move out cleaning fee.”
But if you read the full ad, it looks like they started out at $14,950 / month.
Another ridiculous listing from RentItFurnished.com.
According to the link to RentItFurnished.com in the CL ad, the current rent being asked is $7,495/month.
50% drop. Not bad!
Wouldn’t it be cool if the owners decided to delist and rent this house out while “riding out the correction”? I mean, I would love to buy this place with 0.001% down, its just that later I’d have a bit of trouble coming up with the $70,000 or so per month in mortgage payments. But as a typical Vancouver heavily discounted rental property split many ways between me and my extended family it might just work. That would be a real trip.
Oops. For #2 that is.
Must say with no movement in prime for a while maybe these prices will wallow while the “owners” feel there is still lots of fools and easy money to be had….IMHO
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I see #9 on King Ed has a Sold sticker on it